You think calling it unfair is childish? So what - if I don't like person cheating on the exam in my example I am childish? If so then in my opinion you're the childish one here. Here we have what I described - person A works hard to achieve something while person B cheats to get it with no effort for free. And no - here we don't have a simple childish "you have something I don't have, it's unfair!" situation like you described. The exact nature of a punishment and the scale of reaction is my focus, but now so is the misuse of the word 'deserved' and the self-righteous self-elevation that people are all cashing in on.įor me fairness is a big factor. It's like throwing a house-party because someone got vote-kicked for teamkilling, or saying that someone deserved to have their account reset because they used profanity on a server that auto-censors it. I'm disputing is the nature of the punishment and people's over-eagerness to treat the achievement shortcutter as some kind of high-grade criminal. By a similar token, should we consider forum bans for people who ask each other in CS:GO or TF2 to help them get achievments, because "it's not fair" to those who earn them legitimately? Should we gather to sneer and mock if they suggest that the punishment doesn't fit the crime? This person cheated the achievement system to unlock the content quicker, they got punished. There is no moral basis at the foundation of locking game content behind achievements in a paid DLC, so treating 'fairness' as such a purple-faced serious topic is a bit odd. If you were really concerned about fairness, you would scrutinise the whole thing. It's strange, all this false concern over fairness is pretty transparent when nobody spares a thought for the disconnect between the crime and the punishment. "Fairness" is a bit of a non-factor in this, and the constant parroting of that word is starting to remind me of youth who claim everything that doesn't go their way is 'unfair'. The entire thing just stinks wall to wall, as is normal when groups of people start flinging poop. Heh, not that his attitude is exactly exemplary, looking at his replies. If it influenced other people's gameplay? I'd totally get that. I even understand how frustrating it can be to see scoreboards saturated with impossible, obviously hacked scores (I recall Mirror's Edge record times of 0:00:00.1, heh), but I have a hard time understanding the degree of animosity (and revelry at his punishment) here. It just irks me that people are treating this kid like he's spitting in people's faces when this can barely be said to effect anyone but himself. There is a thing on their forums saying that you can get unbanned if you follow a process to reset your progress, but that resets everything to absolute zero in a game that is already heavy on the grind. It would be better if there was a way for the devs to flag a user for achievement 'demotion' of some kind, but I suppose that's a perfect world approach. Suspension and a deletion of the subject as to prevent spreading awareness of the achievement program seems like more of a rational response, but that's just me. Forums are used for association with the community and for tech support, after all. petty, given they're two different things. You do have a point here, though I don't feel it warrants the level of song and dance it has received.īanning on a forum for cheating on achievements seems almost. Their advantage is not your disadvantage, and should you play with them, it is more likely to be in your favor than not.Įven then, the advantage is not something outside of the game's intended design, as they can be unlocked normally.
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Unless one of the DLC mods is incredibly unbalanced or offers a unique function-changing ability, the deciding factor in a successful heist will remain HOW your team (or that one achievement-cheater) plays, not the fractions of stats on your gun. Having a teammate with better mods than you doesn't negatively affect your gameplay, in fact, you could argue that it makes things better for you, as your missions are marginally more likely to succeed (and therefore give you their completion rewards).Įven in those situations, the differences between a teammate who unlocked them through time and perseverance and someone who shortcutted them is zero. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but PD2 doesn't have a PvP multiplayer.